Jesus Returns!!! ….as the Antichrist?!: Jose Luis de Jesus Miranda claims to be Christ

Just when you think that it can’t get any more wierd… Jose Luis de Jesus Miranda comes out and proclaims that he is the messiah! For those of you who have not heard of Jose Luis, he is the leader of a ministry called “Growing in Grace” and teaches that he is divine and Jesus is reincarnated within him.
Jesus!
And it seems like God always pick the most unlikely class members to succeed! De Jesus grew up in Puerto Rico, finding himself in and out of jail for petty theft and struggled with a heroin addiction. Now De Jesus find himself making $136,000 a year plus the gifts showered upon him by his followers.

That’s right, he has followers. Lots of them. He has thousands of members throughout 30 countries. They are loyally devoted to everything that he teaches and are growing quickly. The church was founded 20 years ago in Miami and have quickly become a force in their community.

Other than claiming to be the Messiah, he also claims to be the antichrist. How could this be, you ask? Well, simple hermeneutics tells him that the Antichrist isn’t actually the devil, bu the being who replaces Jesus on Earth. De Jesus takes a cue from the recording artist Pink and says the antichrist is just misunderstood. De Jesus says, “The Antichrist is the best person in the world. Antichrist means don’t put your eyes on Jesus of Nazareth wasn’t a Christian. Antichrist means do no put your eyes on Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Put it on Jesus after the cross.” Funny how it took 2,000 years for “Jesus after the cross to show up.”

But how could he be misunderstood? simple! there is no such thing as sin! Sin and the devil are none existant. A convenient fact for the followers and for De Jesus himself. The followers have shown the extent of their comittment by getting a tatoo of ‘666’ on them. They also have made a habit of going to Christian churches and disrupting services and smashing crosses and statues of Jesus.
Followers Get Tatooed!

I noticed that he will be interviewed on ABC at 9pm on Tuesday. I’ll be out at that point, but I got someone to tape it for me so I can watch it later. I’d challenege you to watch it and ask yourself, what would you say to confront these beliefs?

For more info you could check out this from CNN, or go ahead and see the man, the messiah here!

UPDATE I wrote a post on how Jose Luis lives up to the writings of Paul. Check it out!

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16 comments on “Jesus Returns!!! ….as the Antichrist?!: Jose Luis de Jesus Miranda claims to be Christ

  1. BethsMomToo says:

    The Messiah would never wear a tie like that!

    Seriously, it made me think of how useful it would be if people knew history better. Same old…same old. Not only does this have gnostic overtones, it is also reminiscent of the religions of the ancient Near East and Egypt. It also reminds me of Mormonism – we are all gods. That idea really plays well to fallen human nature.

    Over the weekend I was copying off some of the Gospel of Thomas and the Gospel of Judas for the Ladies’ Bible Study. They were unfamiliar with the Nag Hammadi library and gnosticism. When you compare these writings with the Bible they don’t even come close to measuring up – by ANYONE’S standards. They are confusing, meaningless and just plain silly. There’s always a smattering of biblical references interspersed with the silliness, but it sounds more like Scripture after a tortured game of “Telephone”. It’s like they had heard Scripture misquoted badly, and then added their own spin. The difficulty is that most people only HEAR about the writings and never actually READ them… or the Bible.

  2. BethsMomToo says:

    I just realized I rolled two comments into one. Sorry…it’s Monday. Read this as a reaction to both posts.

  3. Jessica Deysi Carbajal says:

    i tHINK tHIS mAN hAS sERIOUS pROBLEMS…hE tHE bIBLE sAYS tHAT dURING tHE lAST dAYS fALSE pROFETS wILL sTAND uP aND sAY tHEY aRE jESUS, oR eVEN gOD…bESIDES tHE aNTICHRIST wOULD nEVER rEVEAL hIMSELF…i bELIEVE hES jUST iN iT fOR tHE mONEY tHAT hE hAS bEEN rECIEVING…bUT wAIT iF yOU tHINK hES cRAZY…jUST tHINK wHAT tHAT mAKES aLL hIS fOLLOWERS…yEAH sAME tHING i sAID…tHATS oK tHOUGH wE hAVE mORE oPPORTUNITIES oF sAVING mORE LIVES. gOD bLESS aND bE rEADY..tHEREFORE tHE MESSIAH sHALL rETURN sOON..GOD bLESS!!!!

  4. ehudadams says:

    Yeah, when I was watching the TV show on him, you could tell that he was quite fond of the gifts and money. Thanks for the comment Jessica!

  5. Atheist says:

    The Insane Jesus Christ Man is More Sane than the Christians. In so far as his sanity is better, he is a better Christian.

    Jose Luis de Jesus is my favorite religious character of all time. He should be praised for his new Christianity, not because it is true, but because it is more interesting than the old Christian story.

    The ironies and paradoxes involved in his attitudes towards Christianity are impressive and make the new Christianity more interesting than older versions. For example, we are expected to believe that Christ has been reborn so that Christianity may die.

    Although Jose Luis De Jesus most likely has grandiose delusions, he is not delusional enough to fall for old Christianity. He doesn’t suffer from paranoid delusions. Rather, Jose Luis De Jesus is lucid enough to recognize the need for an Anti-Christ to put old Christianity in the lowly place where it belongs, in the hell of its own making. For his Anti-Christ aspirations, he should be admired.

    For Jose Luis De Jesus, the Anti-Christ does not equal the Devil. ‘Devil’ and ‘sin’ are just a few of the inventions of the worst enemies of humankind to prevent it from being intrinsically driven to advance the good in their lives. There is no justification for the presumably saner Christian believer who demands the delusional fear of hellish punishment to compel us to adopt Christian practices.

    No human mind should be required to fall for Christian delusions in order to claim its goodness and morality. Falling for Christianity is the worst fall from grace of them all. It is the fall from the grace of being in a state of independently guided striving and growing and into the most primitive motivational state possible, the hedonistic and fear driven avoidance of long-term pain in hell and the maximization of long-term pleasure in heaven.

    Christians are reacting to the grandiose delusional Jose Luis De Jesus who considers himself the new Jesus and the leader of the new Christianity. Instead, Christians should consider that the many beliefs that lead one to fall for Christian dogma are more delusional than the 666 tattooed priest’s belief that he is the reincarnation of Christ returning to correct Christian error.

    The Jesus Christ Man is a better person than the typical Christian.

  6. KaoSSS says:

    God Is here on Earth!! His name is Jose luis de jesus miranda. Very well spoken words ATHEIST compared to the ignorance of other commentators on this blog. Keep running scared. The beast is here to govern nations. You should sumbit now because you already now the ending to the book. The antichrist will rule the world. Hope your eyes are opened. If they are closed, STay on guard because Jose luis de jesus miranda is not just a man. Hes the son of man, The lord, The 2nd coming of christ, The Antichrist. . Abba Father. The truth will set you free.

  7. ehudadams says:

    If he is the antichrist, then he must be consistent with what the Word of God says. I saw how Jose Luis said that he only believes Paul’s writings were true. I would challenge you to look at the post I wrote about how he stacks up with the writings of Paul.

    I also know that he says there is no such thing as sin. So why should I be scared? Why should I be on guard? What is there to fear if I’m wrong. Unfortunately, you have more to lose than I do if you are wrong.

    I Timothy 6:3-10, which is written by Paul, warns us to run from false teaching. “If anyone teaches a different doctrine and does not agree with the sound words of our Lord Jesus Christ and the teaching that accords with godliness, he is puffed up with conceit and understands nothing.” He must stand up to what the Word of God explains about the end times, sin, and Jesus Christ. Jose Luis falls pathetically short.

    Does Jose Luis live up to this verse? 6:9″But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation, into a snare, into many senseless and harmful desires taht plunge people into ruin and destruction.”

    And what does Paul have to say about the second coming of Christ? I Thessalonians 4:16 “For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first.” Does this sound like what happened with Jose Luis? Didn’t he find out he was “jesus” when he was in jail? Did anything liek this happen?

    Paul also gave a warning against false teachers in I Timothy 1. It says that people are going to come up with crackpot theories and vain arguments. Then he says in verse 9 that “the law is not laid down for the just but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane…” If there is no such thing, then why do we need Christ? verse 15 says “Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners…” Why do I need Jose Luis if there is no inherent difference between he and I?

    And Atheist, I will speak to your words in a bit. i’m curious, though. Why did you automatically assume that there was someone who wrote this? You assumed that if you wrote here, your words would be read by someone who wrote the post. Why did you make this assumption? Is it safe to say that it is a reasonable conclusion to say that if there is a post, there must be an author? You also are a creation. Is it a reasonable conclusion that if you exist, there must be a creator? You had faith that this post didn’t pop up from nowhere, and didn’t come to exist due to time and chance.

    I will speak to your words later, though. Thanks for visiting and please come back!

  8. I say let Jose Luis de Jesus Miranda be who he thinks he is. I already knew people like him will come about for it has been foretold. As for his followers, they fail to see the truth for they never been right with true God.

    This guy does have a way with words, and his words make it seem ok to do that of which is wrong. There is good and there is evil, how could he sat that there is no evil or sin? By what this guy says it’s ok to do harm onto others or rape them or cheat on your spouse because to him nothing is sinful. Besides the ones who don’t believe in GOD, how could everyone else be wrong about there is only good after the coming of Christ?

    No one is perfect, not even me. When growing up I did that of which is good but felt a battle inside of me…Good vs Evil. I told no one this because I thought that they would think I am crazy or something. So what did I do, I prayed to GOD (true God) and asked him for help and guidance. I also asked him for him to use me. Now the time is coming closer and closer. I will have to do my part and let people hear the truth.

    Prayer…why does this guy say prayer doesn’t matter and should be stopped? He says this because he is afraid that once one starts to pray that the true Lord will answer and show them the truth.

    666…he says he is the anti-christ but states that it means that it is God’s second coming. Those are just words to confuse the ones who are blind from the truth. He is misleading you in the wrong direction. We as humans know anti means against something and not second coming. Don’t you think that God said anti for anti-christ because he knew that we use anti as against? The number 666, is the sign of the devil for God has said so. Pray about and pray about. Do what I did, PRAY, PRAY and PRAY some more. Jose Luis de Jesus Miranda doesn’t want you to pray because the truth will come out.

    There is no sin, evil, or devil…He says this because he knows how easy one would believe that they can go to Heaven no matter what they do in life as long as they believe in him. There is the Devil, evil and sin because everyone must know doing harm to another is not of God and if it is not of God then who…the devil. He puts many evil thoughts in your head so you can sin and think it is alright. That is why you pray. I keep bring pray up because if you don’t ask for help you will not recieve any. You can ask through prayer. And once you start praying you begain to see the truth.

    There are many other things to say but trust not you but God. Not the one who claims to be him but the one up in Heaven. Yes there will be many hard times, but never forget the true Lord..our true King.

    Jose Luis de Jesus Miranda says not to pray because praying will be his undoing.

  9. Silvia says:

    Jose Luis de Jesus Miranda is a big nothing!!!

    NO MATTER WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS
    OR WHAT TOMORROW BRINGS…
    I KNOW I’M SAFE WITHIN THE ARMS
    OF JESUS CHRIST, MY KING.

  10. debbie says:

    Hey Bethsmomtoo,
    Speaking of people who should know their history better, you should check your facts
    about Mormonism before you say misinformed things like ,we all think we are Gods.

  11. BethsMomToo says:

    You’re right – I made an over-generalization. That can happen when one forgets the general audience on the Internet. So let me clarify…

    According the LDS Church [Mormon Church], human beings can become gods, people have the POTENTIAL to become gods. The only difference between us and the Father is our level of development. He was once mortal like us, but became a god through good works and so can we. Here’s some historical, verifiable documentation:

    “God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits
    enthroned in yonder heavens!…He was once a man like us; yea, that God
    himself, the Father of us all, dwelt on an earth, the same as Jesus Christ
    himself did; and I will show it from the Bible” (Prophet Joseph Smith Jr.,
    History of the Church 6:305).

    “As man now is, God once was; as God now is, man may be” (Prophet Lorenzo
    Snow).

    “The Father is a glorified, perfected, resurrected, exalted man who worked
    out his salvation by obedience to the same laws he has given to us so that
    we may do the same” (Apostle Bruce R. McConkie, A New Witness for the
    Articles of Faith, p.64).

    “The Lord created you and me for the purpose of becoming Gods like
    himself. We are created to become gods like unto our father in heaven”
    (Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 10:223).

    “Man is the king of kings and Lord of Lords in embryo” (Prophet Brigham
    Young, Journal of Discourses 10:223).

    In regard to the words LDS prophets proclaim, the prophet Brigham Young said,
    “I say now, when they are copied and approved by me they are as good
    Scripture as is couched in this Bible” (Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of
    Discourses 13:264).

    Brigham Young compared his sermons with Scripture. “I have never yet
    preached a sermon and sent it out to the children of men, that they may
    not call Scripture. Let me have the privilege of correcting a sermon, and
    it is as good Scripture as they deserve. The people have the oracles of
    God continually” (Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 13:95).

    But that is NOT the way the God of the Bible, the God of Israel, reveals Himself in His Word, the Bible. In fact, it’s in sharp contrast to that contention, “God is NOT a man, that He should lie, NOR a son of man, that He should repent…” Numbers 23:19

  12. alex says:

    “as man is now, God once was” .
    According to the Bible the present human condition is defined by sin: Adam and Eve’s disobeying to the commandment of God and the punsihment that followed. (book of Genesis).
    To say that God has been like us means to say that He has sinned, becouse this is the human condition: living in sin, until the salvation, until the comprehension of Truth. Until we are found, we are lost; we are born here in order to have the chance to be found, but few of us are (becouse we don’t want to leave this condition).
    To say that God had ever sinned means to say that He could be deceived, becouse that’s the only way someone sins: by deceiving themselves or by beying deceived. And that means to say that God could be mentaly subdued by the deceiver, the “prince of darkness”. God wasn’t a man “like us” becouse He never sinned, He is allmighty and allknowing, He is the Just and all of the Law comes FROM (within) Him.
    He is not a perfect creature: He Is the Origin of perfection and of creation, of being and of becoming.

    There is a huge problem in not understanding the concept of “sin” and “sinning”. It makes the practice of religion impossible in truth.
    To sin is perceived mostly as breaking the Law, in the old Testament. But the teaching of Christ is clear: only those who know the Son of God and believe in Him know God (the Heavenly Father) and is through this saved. This is justice: to know He Who Is, the One God. To live in sin means to live without justice, without the knoledge of God.
    In fact those who do not know God can’t be faithfull to Him, can’t obey, can’t not-sin. This is why it is written that we are all sinners until we stop being thus.
    It is important to understand that the concept of sin is (reffered to) A CONDITION, wich contains the action of sinning, and that this condition is definable as “to ignore God”. And for those who believe that God not only determines the Creation and the created, but that He Is the ultimate expression of reality, the Origin and the End, He Who Is, for those people to ignore God coincides with ignorance in general.
    Anyway we must stop being hypocrites: the catholics and orthodox christians must practice what the priests read to them from the Bible, instead of doing like the priests do; …the protestants must actually read the Bible and first believe what they read before they believe the interpretations of their pastors (who should be considered as brothers of the flock, not fathers or teachers; Mat 23. 8-12); …and the atheists must continue to try to non-violently proove that there is no intelligent Creator and that there is no intelligent Lord of the created worthy of praise or practice a true religion, instead of preaching “semi-beliefs” in Something of inexplicable whenever human science fails to explain truly (wich happens very often).
    When it’s about religion people tend to be ambiguous and say one thing but do another (hypocrites) more than usual, becouse they lie to themselves: a part of every individual wants to embrace the true doctrine, wich is transcendental and is directed to guide the human being out of it’s present condition, but the other part of this individual loves it’s present condition and is very attatched to it, loves this instable world and the mortal body of flesh.
    It is becouse they love the world that people don’t know the true religion and don’t understand the Scriptures. A true christian doesn’t love the world: he loves his neighbour (brother)! And it’s becouse he loves his neighbour as himself that he sees the pain of the world and the illusion of the human condition. The teaching of Christ, the commandment of love is the key to understanding the alliance with the Lord God.
    Even if we live in sin here, only the generosity of God permits us to live. And we pass trough here only becouse we have to transcend and truly start to live in Him, wich is the Life. This is why He is called the Living God.
    Jesus Christ came to testify for His Father, to be the Way to the Heavenly Father.

    We must not forget that Christ came in the name of His Father!

    The AntiChrist has come against that name, wich is Lord God. This Name of the Heavenly Father is not just a word: it is a dimension, a force that holds everything toghether. This is why truly religious men fear God and praise and call His name and believe in His Name. Cohesion is a property (an effect) of the Name of God,
    wich is “Lord”.
    The AntiCrist is the antiGod, becouse Christ came in the Name of God. The AntiChrist is the rebel that sturrs up rebellion against the true God, the Lord, he is the one that seeks to seize power, becouse the power is in the hands of the Lord, he eats the minds and spirits of men.
    Christ gave His life to save men and He teaches obedience to the true God, the Lord God. Christ is our Lord and our pastor, our priest and our king, the door to the Kingdom of Heaven, to the Lord God.
    It is dangerous to say that the preacher De Jesus is nothing; he is part of the
    man-eating beast. It is said that the Devil’s best weapon is to convince people he doesn’t exist. This is what the metaphor used in the Scriptures to speak of false prophets indicates: the wolves in sheep’s clothing are the ones who say that sin isn’t sin, who say that bad is good and that good is bad.
    Every christian must not be neglijent. To not preach doesn’t mean to not intimately seek ideological firmness. Couse if you don’t look to have faith in God (if you are not seeking to be firm in Christ) you are not a christian.
    (In front of false preachers) Wich of us remebers what we heard in the begining?
    Fight for your lives! the war is mental. Be firm in the alliance with the true God (find love) and nothing will be able to confuse (defeat) you.

  13. little richelle says:

    first of all ,the bible says that GOD never changes ….what is good is good …and what is bad is bad …..God,Christ, the Holy Spirt will never contradict the bible …for he is the word……God is not a hypocrite…….like the bible says that my people perish because they dont know the word….know God which is the word ……..Three important points of the bible, the thuth is 1)we belive because of faith ….in Christ Jesus 2)the bible is God and no other word or book in needed .3)and that christ will come again to rule but only when the church disappear s to heaven….Christ will call the church to him then he will come down and rule and destroy all who not believe in him and follow his word…….i do not think this man Jose ……is a briliant man to convice people that he is Jesus (how dare u),people are just so blind…..

  14. April says:

    hahah. are you kidding me? people are actually followers of this guy and tattoo themselves because of him? you gotta be kidding me. hes a nobody. and hes definitely not the antichrist.

  15. jose says:

    son unos mal paridos cara de picha

  16. Nate Torres says:

    I am Jose Luis de jesus Miranda, and I hav e an explanation for why my people did not become immortal speed-joggers on June 30th. It is because they did not give me enough money. I am here at home transforming. I am in a big cocoon, an ugly caterpillar about to become a beautiful butterfly, like Mothra. Remember those two little Oriental ladies that were like Mothra’s side-kicks? Yeah. Me too. No point, just being nostalgic. But, yeah. I am transforming. I am texting you from inside this cocoon. It is damp, that is moist, like a sauna. There is milk and cookies. I am sweating like a dog. But not from my tongue to be exact. From other parts of me. I have a straw that I use to breathe air. I got it from a local 7/11 around the corner from one of my churches. Funny word, church. It means cave. I am in a cave. I am in church. Get me out of here! No, must be patient. Must go through this unholy process to cleanse myself of all things human. Not that I was wholly human before I came into this cocoon. I will become something more than you can imagine. When you see me you will be, well, amazed and confused. Actually, I will be a bit amazed and confused myself, when I finally look in the mirror. I will most likely say, “Holy caca! What is that?” But it will only be the new me! Then I will go out and show myself to the world, because, well, I need more money for heroin.

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